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pdxsudo
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 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Please help me with XY-chain link Hello all. I'm new to Sudoku and I'm trying to learn the XY-chain link. I am having a difficult time to understand this particular technique. For example, I'm trying to solve this puzzle using Sudocue. The "Hint" suggested that XY-chain link for the digit 4. But the start and end point belong to the same cell! That means the digit 4 must belong to that cell. Does it have any restrictions on what 2 digit cells I can use to link? In the example below, I'm linking the cell R6C5 twice. I'm quite confused... This screen print shows the Puzzle I'm working on. Thanks in advance for all the helpful tips!
Ruud
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Joined: 30 Dec 2005
Posts: 601

 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: You have discovered a bug in the XY-Chain function. Although the eliminations are correct, it should not have been reported as an XY-Chain. This is what happens: either r7c5=3 or r7c5=4 if r7c5=3, then r6c5=5 => r3c5=6 => r3c3=9 => r6c3=1 => r6c9=5 the program should have stopped there, because there are two digits 5 in row 6, but instead the program continues: r6c9=5 => r6c5=3 => r7c5=4 Thanks for this nice example. I finally figured out what is going wrong. This is obviously not a good example to learn about XY-chains. There should be 2 yellow candidates. cheers, Ruud_________________“If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't.” - Emerson M Pugh
pdxsudo
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 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Thanks Rudd. I thought I was going crazy! Your explanation makes perfect sense.
Ruud
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 Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: I changed the code to avoid retracing a chain. The program now finds this XY-Chain instead: Looks like a valid XY-Chain to me Ruud
pdxsudo
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 Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: I'd been printing out the puzzle to play on paper for a month now. I have to admit, the "retracing a chain" technique is actually very useful in placing a number! Afterall, the ultimate goal of eliminating possible numbers is to place a number!
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